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andsoitis 1 days ago [-]
> The events in the last three centuries attested that super-powered countries and corporations contributed to render the world worse than what they found.
The world is worse off than 300 years ago?
ReptileMan 1 days ago [-]
Indeed. Think of how much we lose sitting in our AC rooms, eating our safe food, having light and hot water 24/7. And the anesthetics and antibiotics that allow surgery. We are softies.
Real men work the field with plow and welcome the gangrene that could come from a scratch. And the amputation is only done on whiskey overload. For both the surgeon and the patient.
watwut 1 days ago [-]
None of these "AC rooms, eating our safe food, having light and hot water" requires super powered corporations or countries. Safe food requires a functional country able to enforce food regulations. That is it, super powered country not needed. Ordinary low power democracy is enough for safe food, having light and hot water.
AC rooms require just normal functional economy where many companies create and sell AC. You dont need super powered monopoly for that.
watwut 1 days ago [-]
The power of super-powered countries and corporations went up and down during those 300 years.
The claim is not that the world is worst off, but that the super-powered countries and corporations are making it worst off. Then you have backslash against them, rules and regulations, economies based on competition of smaller parties. Democracy can be on the loosing path or on the winning path.
Super-powered countries and corporations are not helpful or necessary for the good stuff. But they are capable and willing of causing huge harm. They come along with philosophies that make their operators believe that causing harm to others which pursuing power is a good thing on itself.
alesrosa 3 hours ago [-]
Thanks for getting my point. I'm rather worried about the future.
squeegeeninja 1 days ago [-]
This feels more like unrelated political dissatisfaction packaged to hitch a ride on the AI discourse train. The experience of struggling for solutions only seems to disappear if you lack ambition. Keeping the amount of thought you put into problems constant only requires broadening your horizon to new problems.
plasticchris 1 days ago [-]
Misses the point. Now that things are easier, we have greater agency, not lesser.
alesrosa 3 hours ago [-]
I don't miss the point.
Most of the comments that have been posted here seemed to be written by people blinded by efficience and power. None of them took care of my points about the waste of energy and water.
Any technology threating against the natural habitat and its creator is no good.
squeegeeninja 2 hours ago [-]
The same argument has been used against most data center operations from the beginning. You can criticise specific bad actors and bad practices (like Musk and his blatantly illegal gas turbines) without morally condemning an entire field of technology through the lens of religious environmentalism. There is nothing about the technology that prevents data centers from running 100% renewably.
alesrosa 22 minutes ago [-]
There should be no plan of building new data centers up to that time. I am not against new technology at all, only against indiscriminate use.
It's like cars and motorbikes. People are illuded that they drive good tech, but they are strongly contributing to pollution. This is a topic that should join all people.
The world is worse off than 300 years ago?
Real men work the field with plow and welcome the gangrene that could come from a scratch. And the amputation is only done on whiskey overload. For both the surgeon and the patient.
AC rooms require just normal functional economy where many companies create and sell AC. You dont need super powered monopoly for that.
The claim is not that the world is worst off, but that the super-powered countries and corporations are making it worst off. Then you have backslash against them, rules and regulations, economies based on competition of smaller parties. Democracy can be on the loosing path or on the winning path.
Super-powered countries and corporations are not helpful or necessary for the good stuff. But they are capable and willing of causing huge harm. They come along with philosophies that make their operators believe that causing harm to others which pursuing power is a good thing on itself.